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Mr. Morris. You are an excellent historian, but somewhat confusing at times. Is it your own personal biases that come out in your writing that lead to some of that confusion?

At least, when discussing 1967 and after, I have my own personal memories to draw on.

This most recent post has raised a multitude of questions. I wonder whether you, (or other readers) might provide some clarity.

You speak about the territory of present-day Israel as " a territory the Arabs and Muslims have grown to cherish."

I would dispute that, historically. The entire area was a dusty backwater throughout the centuries of Islamic rule. The only time the Muslims have come to "cherish" it is when others, particularly the Jews, achieved authority over it.

You write, "In 1948, the Palestinians and the Palestinian “problem” had been virtually knocked out of history."

When and where, in 1948 and prior, have Palestinian (Arabs)specifically, figured anywhere in history? When and where were they ever mentioned, or specified as such?

You comment that "Israeli public opinion,... had barely thought about the West Bank and East Jerusalem during the pre-1967 years".

Not exactly. The world had turned its back on international law, and on the Jewish community of nascent Israel as it struggled to survive. Israelis were too busy doing that to consider the impossible dream of returning to their holy sites (accession to which had been promised by the terms of the 1949 armistice). I remember, however, "public opinion" as we scattered in response to rifle fire coming from the parapets of the walls of the Old City, aimed at us pedestrians who foolishly approached the barbed wire along Sultan Suleiman Street.

You go on to speak of, "most of the Palestinians under Israeli rule. That rule, an occupation,"

And I ask, "an occupation" from which legal sovereign entity? How can JEWS be said to "occupy", JUDEA?

You insist on using the delegitimizing terminology of our enemies. You say, "referring to the West Bank, somewhat inaccurately, as the biblically named “Judea and Samaria.”

Why, exactly, is that "inaccurate"? Was that not the exact nomenclature used throughout history, up to and including in the terms of UNGA 181 in 1947? I would really appreciate your response to this question.

With regards to settlements, you note that, "The initiative was spearheaded by the sons of the pre-1948 settlers evicted by the Arabs"; and "Over the decades, many Israelis settled in the West Bank; "even, "driving the settlement enterprise from the start were the redemptionist-messianic passions".

Individual, and groups of Jews, freely choosing, each for their own reasons, to build homes on unowned, disputed land. How then, does that legally morph into "the government swiftly began establishing new settlements in the territory"?

You write, "a coerced or “voluntary” expatriation of West Bank-east Jerusalem Arabs. But this is extremely unlikely. The international community, and many Israelis, will not allow it..."

I ask, WHY NOT?

In the same vein, "most of them will probably prefer to remain (sumud, they call it) in Palestine, even in Gaza’s miserable tent encampments." I ask again, WHY?

Is the real answer to both questions not that the Arabs need, deserve, want their own state to achieve dignity, liberty, prosperity, etc. but rather solely to deny a state, any state, to the Jews?

That same question is again raised when you write, "The only polity that might fit the bill would be a state comprising the West Bank, east Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip and the territory east of the Jordan River, currently the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan."

WHY? WHY do the Palestinians need those measly 2000 sq. miles of Gaza, Judea and Samaria (including eastern Jerusalem) IN ADDITION to the 35,000 sq. miles of what today is Jordan, to "answer the basic needs and aspirations of the Palestinians"?

You, I, and the readers here know the answer to those questions. Why are we so hesitant to clearly enunciate it?

L Simmons's avatar

This was a wonderful history lesson, free from bias. I despair what is happening. I visited lots in the eighties and nineties. Even thought of making aliya. At the end of the day, I’m almost glad I didn’t. But I have to say, the relief, comfort of being amongst my own people is a feeling I will never have in my own country. Especially now.

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